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		<title>By: Dave Miles</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bobby,
My wife Nancy and I were at the Boston event and although it got off to a very rocky start we felt it was still worth every minute of our time. The organizers really tried hard to do a great job and they did.

With that said, I would suggest having seperate rooms for the break outs. One group in particular was so noisy that all the other break out sessions were compromised at that time.

Having the ability to suggest topics is nice but it also caused a lot of fragmantation and confusion.

All in all we would reccommend the RE BarCamps to anyone who can attend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bobby,<br />
My wife Nancy and I were at the Boston event and although it got off to a very rocky start we felt it was still worth every minute of our time. The organizers really tried hard to do a great job and they did.</p>
<p>With that said, I would suggest having seperate rooms for the break outs. One group in particular was so noisy that all the other break out sessions were compromised at that time.</p>
<p>Having the ability to suggest topics is nice but it also caused a lot of fragmantation and confusion.</p>
<p>All in all we would reccommend the RE BarCamps to anyone who can attend.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lauber</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We really did try to do what you suggested in Philly (as Kim mentioned).  We went back and forth on session sizes and did stress to anyone emailing us about pushing their product (NOT too).  That worked, sort of.  Like Todd said, more people needed to understand the law of 2 feet.

One of, if not the best session, in Philly was probably the least attended.  While the discussion morphed a bit, it was kept on track by the facilitator (Craig Barrett).  I too would have liked more interaction in some of the other sessions.

As for charging, that may get more people &quot;dedicated&quot; to coming and cause a bit less stress about shirts, etc. and what to do with the &quot;leftovers&quot;.  Nice post Bobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We really did try to do what you suggested in Philly (as Kim mentioned).  We went back and forth on session sizes and did stress to anyone emailing us about pushing their product (NOT too).  That worked, sort of.  Like Todd said, more people needed to understand the law of 2 feet.</p>
<p>One of, if not the best session, in Philly was probably the least attended.  While the discussion morphed a bit, it was kept on track by the facilitator (Craig Barrett).  I too would have liked more interaction in some of the other sessions.</p>
<p>As for charging, that may get more people &#8220;dedicated&#8221; to coming and cause a bit less stress about shirts, etc. and what to do with the &#8220;leftovers&#8221;.  Nice post Bobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Davis</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your suggestions!  I attended the very first Bar Camp in San Francisco. No projectors that I remember, lots of sessions, plenty of good information. One of my favorite sessions had a total of 6 people. It was much more spontaneous and more interactive between the presenter and the audience. While I don&#039;t mind a few venders, it is beginning to lean way too far in that direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your suggestions!  I attended the very first Bar Camp in San Francisco. No projectors that I remember, lots of sessions, plenty of good information. One of my favorite sessions had a total of 6 people. It was much more spontaneous and more interactive between the presenter and the audience. While I don&#8217;t mind a few venders, it is beginning to lean way too far in that direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Nannette Saunders</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Nannette Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby,
Thank you for taking the time to write this post.  Lots of great points both in your post and in the comments.  It is my hope that REBAR Lynchburg is a small event with a lot of flexibility yet structure.  You know rebar style.  I have been to 2 rebar camps one in Fred-burg and also in Charlotte NC.  Both were just great but different.  Since rebar Lynchburg is 4 months away this gives us lots of time to make it a great event.
I really get turned off with a vender/volunteer that pitches, but like Todd said I just get up and leave and go to another session or in the hall.  Sometimes the sessions in the hall is the best.  I think you get out of these events what you want.  It is one of those events that if you don&#039;t like what is happening you do have the power to change it and shame on you if you don&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby,<br />
Thank you for taking the time to write this post.  Lots of great points both in your post and in the comments.  It is my hope that REBAR Lynchburg is a small event with a lot of flexibility yet structure.  You know rebar style.  I have been to 2 rebar camps one in Fred-burg and also in Charlotte NC.  Both were just great but different.  Since rebar Lynchburg is 4 months away this gives us lots of time to make it a great event.<br />
I really get turned off with a vender/volunteer that pitches, but like Todd said I just get up and leave and go to another session or in the hall.  Sometimes the sessions in the hall is the best.  I think you get out of these events what you want.  It is one of those events that if you don&#8217;t like what is happening you do have the power to change it and shame on you if you don&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Monica McNamara</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended the first rebarcamp in San Franciso. I have read everyone else&#039;s comments, and I am no expert in this incredible medium, but maybe we need less of these camps to keep their &quot;uniqueness&quot; and &quot;thrill&quot; for the event at a hightened level.I don&#039;t want to see them evolve into just vendors presenting and simultaneously selling. That may be the danger of continued repitition in this format.
Having said that, I applaud the efforts of Kim Wood and crew for rebcphl. They did an awesome job! I garnered a lot of info!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended the first rebarcamp in San Franciso. I have read everyone else&#8217;s comments, and I am no expert in this incredible medium, but maybe we need less of these camps to keep their &#8220;uniqueness&#8221; and &#8220;thrill&#8221; for the event at a hightened level.I don&#8217;t want to see them evolve into just vendors presenting and simultaneously selling. That may be the danger of continued repitition in this format.<br />
Having said that, I applaud the efforts of Kim Wood and crew for rebcphl. They did an awesome job! I garnered a lot of info!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Wilson - Agent Solutions</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Wilson - Agent Solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bobby, this was an awesome article. I have yet to attend a Bar Camp, however I am seriously considering planning one for here in Calgary and this post has definitely got the wheels turning. I know there are not many agents around here that are familiar with these types of events, but I feel its all the more reason to get the ball rolling.

Thank you for all the great information here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bobby, this was an awesome article. I have yet to attend a Bar Camp, however I am seriously considering planning one for here in Calgary and this post has definitely got the wheels turning. I know there are not many agents around here that are familiar with these types of events, but I feel its all the more reason to get the ball rolling.</p>
<p>Thank you for all the great information here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Cummings</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Cummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby - you hit the nail on the head with a number of your points.  I&#039;ve attended 2 RE Bar Camps, and enjoyed both of them for a variety of reasons.  I went to the bar camp in Virginia that you mentioned, and I loved that one.  The smaller number made it more intimate, meaning everyone talked to everyone, you got to meet everyone, and the learning venue was great.  And I agree with you that the smaller number did make it feel really special to be a part of it.

The Philly Bar Camp was great in a variety of ways as well, in that there were more sessions to pick and choose from, but because it was much larger, it didn&#039;t allow for the closeness of feeling that the VA one had.  I found out later that there were people there I wanted to meet that I never saw because of the larger attendance &amp; the number of rooms sessions were in.  That doesn&#039;t take away anything from the enjoyment of that bar camp at all.

I like that there are before and after fun events at most of these, those add to the great feelings of being there in person.

I&#039;ve also been able to watch parts of 3 other bar camps on your live streaming, and Monika is right in that the comments on those are quite telling, and would make great feedback for others to learn from - both organizers and speakers/presenters.

I&#039;ll be attending the Boston Bar Camp next week, and I know those organizers have been working hard to put all the good things garnered from a number of bar camps that they&#039;ve attended, in person or via live stream.  And they&#039;ve solicited feedback and input from attendees.

I&#039;m a bar camp believer as well, and I hope they don&#039;t ever become routine or run-of-the-mill.  There&#039;s so much to gain from attending them, in person or via your great live-streaming that you do.

My thanks to all who work so hard to put these bar camps together - that&#039;s a true yeoman&#039;s job for sure.  And many thanks to you and Brad for the contributions you make as well - much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby &#8211; you hit the nail on the head with a number of your points.  I&#8217;ve attended 2 RE Bar Camps, and enjoyed both of them for a variety of reasons.  I went to the bar camp in Virginia that you mentioned, and I loved that one.  The smaller number made it more intimate, meaning everyone talked to everyone, you got to meet everyone, and the learning venue was great.  And I agree with you that the smaller number did make it feel really special to be a part of it.</p>
<p>The Philly Bar Camp was great in a variety of ways as well, in that there were more sessions to pick and choose from, but because it was much larger, it didn&#8217;t allow for the closeness of feeling that the VA one had.  I found out later that there were people there I wanted to meet that I never saw because of the larger attendance &amp; the number of rooms sessions were in.  That doesn&#8217;t take away anything from the enjoyment of that bar camp at all.</p>
<p>I like that there are before and after fun events at most of these, those add to the great feelings of being there in person.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been able to watch parts of 3 other bar camps on your live streaming, and Monika is right in that the comments on those are quite telling, and would make great feedback for others to learn from &#8211; both organizers and speakers/presenters.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be attending the Boston Bar Camp next week, and I know those organizers have been working hard to put all the good things garnered from a number of bar camps that they&#8217;ve attended, in person or via live stream.  And they&#8217;ve solicited feedback and input from attendees.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bar camp believer as well, and I hope they don&#8217;t ever become routine or run-of-the-mill.  There&#8217;s so much to gain from attending them, in person or via your great live-streaming that you do.</p>
<p>My thanks to all who work so hard to put these bar camps together &#8211; that&#8217;s a true yeoman&#8217;s job for sure.  And many thanks to you and Brad for the contributions you make as well &#8211; much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Carpenter</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby, one interesting thing that happened in Denver makes me wonder about how people who view the live streams are perceiving these events.

The big room is usually not the best room.

Much of the interaction you are talking about happens in those smaller rooms. Here in Chicago, we plan to start the morning with one big room, but then blow that up. We&#039;re going to split that one big room into three almost immediately.

Denver was one of, if not THE biggest RE BarCamp. It was my favorite so far. I don&#039;t think the size of the whole event has much to do with the formula for success. 

I also think, if someone is pitching a product in front of me, I would just call them out right then and there. I hope other attendees choose to do the same. Now, if Walt&#039;s Widgets wants to do a session on how to use Walt&#039;s Widgets, don&#039;t expect Walt not to pimp his product. Use the law of two feet, or don&#039;t listen in the first place.

Last, call them speakers, presenters, facilitators or whatever. More than anything though, they are volunteers. It takes time money and effort to volunteer. If a critic doesn&#039;t like the job the volunteers are doing, I guess I don&#039;t care that much unless they want to volunteer to make it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby, one interesting thing that happened in Denver makes me wonder about how people who view the live streams are perceiving these events.</p>
<p>The big room is usually not the best room.</p>
<p>Much of the interaction you are talking about happens in those smaller rooms. Here in Chicago, we plan to start the morning with one big room, but then blow that up. We&#8217;re going to split that one big room into three almost immediately.</p>
<p>Denver was one of, if not THE biggest RE BarCamp. It was my favorite so far. I don&#8217;t think the size of the whole event has much to do with the formula for success. </p>
<p>I also think, if someone is pitching a product in front of me, I would just call them out right then and there. I hope other attendees choose to do the same. Now, if Walt&#8217;s Widgets wants to do a session on how to use Walt&#8217;s Widgets, don&#8217;t expect Walt not to pimp his product. Use the law of two feet, or don&#8217;t listen in the first place.</p>
<p>Last, call them speakers, presenters, facilitators or whatever. More than anything though, they are volunteers. It takes time money and effort to volunteer. If a critic doesn&#8217;t like the job the volunteers are doing, I guess I don&#8217;t care that much unless they want to volunteer to make it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Wood</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monika - I suppose there are always some stresses that come with any event - my major stress point was I really wanted everyone to leave happy and with something of value :) 

The idea of the charge for lunch and shirt isn&#039;t a bad one - it would get a little bit more of a commitment out of people.

BYOChair &amp; park - *ROCK IT* I&#039;m there - I&#039;d even pitch a tent and have campfire convos :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monika &#8211; I suppose there are always some stresses that come with any event &#8211; my major stress point was I really wanted everyone to leave happy and with something of value <img src='http://bobbycarroll.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>The idea of the charge for lunch and shirt isn&#8217;t a bad one &#8211; it would get a little bit more of a commitment out of people.</p>
<p>BYOChair &amp; park &#8211; *ROCK IT* I&#8217;m there &#8211; I&#8217;d even pitch a tent and have campfire convos <img src='http://bobbycarroll.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Derec Shuler</title>
		<link>http://bobbycarroll.net/2009/06/03/rebarcamp-suggestions/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Derec Shuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great observations Bobby! REBC Denver was a lot of fun and we were able to adjust to issues like the number of projectors pretty quickly.  One thing I would have liked to have seen was more nuts and bolts on how to do things like use a Flip, make some video, do a quick edit, and upload to YouTube and maybe some talk of syndication with some Q&amp;A along the way.  While we had a great video presentation, it was focused on using a syndicator, hire out video, and SEO.

We also had some great sessions that were facilitated and interactive, providing a lot of value. It&#039;s great to see big names and vendors come out but we need to stay hand&#039;s on and crunchy rather than getting too commercial.

I like Dale&#039;s idea, bring your own chair and have it out in a park :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great observations Bobby! REBC Denver was a lot of fun and we were able to adjust to issues like the number of projectors pretty quickly.  One thing I would have liked to have seen was more nuts and bolts on how to do things like use a Flip, make some video, do a quick edit, and upload to YouTube and maybe some talk of syndication with some Q&amp;A along the way.  While we had a great video presentation, it was focused on using a syndicator, hire out video, and SEO.</p>
<p>We also had some great sessions that were facilitated and interactive, providing a lot of value. It&#8217;s great to see big names and vendors come out but we need to stay hand&#8217;s on and crunchy rather than getting too commercial.</p>
<p>I like Dale&#8217;s idea, bring your own chair and have it out in a park <img src='http://bobbycarroll.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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